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Oh, don't be silly. Your boobs aren't THAT big!

Totally agree.

Jo, I'm a fan of waving your hand or snapping your fingers in the offender's face and saying "um, I'm up here, do you mind?" and continuing the conversation. A little shame therapy is often helpful, LOL. No seriously, I believe if they're going to be that rude and you're not there for their entertainment, then you don't have to tolerate it.
If you're at work, or in a situation that recquires tact, try bending your knee (dont' bend forward at the waist, though, that defeats the purpose) to lower yourself just enough to start making eye contact, after that you should be able to stand back up while maintaining eye contact and they hold your gaze. Helps with clients that are also too shy or ashamed to look a clinincian in the eye, kinda uses that natural tendency to your advantage.

I hate being a woman sometimes. I really do. This has happened to me in the workplace and at stores more times than I can say. I have had my career sabotaged by sexist pigs multiple times. I have had the "ignore anything a woman says" boss before. It sucks.

It's a man's world - always has been, always will be.

It's MY world. Because I say so. Giving up makes it stay the same. I don't want that for future generations. I'd cut my tongue out before I ever said that, especially in front of a younger woman. We all need to demand our rights, respect and recognition, or this WILL just go on and on.

(07-12-2010 08:25 AM)NKBurlington Wrote: [ -> ]It's a man's world - always has been, always will be.

I prefer to be less defeatist and at least TRY to have a more fair and equitable world.

Speaking up in this thread is an example.

It is a man's world only because women have handed it to men. If we twitched our smallest finger in the direction of true power, no one could stop us. We don't even try.

(I use the royal "we", of course. I've been flexing my power for the last 10 years or so, and it is the greatest thing EVER!)

Just learned today about "mansplaining" aka man explaining things. It's kind of funny:

a blog entry:
http://echidneofthesnakes.blogspot.com/2...3064383031

a news article:
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/13/...p-solnit13

I have experienced "mansplaining" a lot while doing work with unusual cycle design.

With regards to Jo's news article:
I agree that I used to have problems speaking up when some ass of a guy spoke up about something that I thought I knew, but decided that I must have been wrong. Then it turns out that he was clueless, but I only find this out later. I try not to capitulate anymore, although I have also sometimes been wrong so I do try to be careful

Then again, I also know a woman who speaks that way, but I have to admit that they are rare. Much more rare then the men of similar attitudes.

I work as a specialist in a workplace surrounded by men. There are a few other women in the workplace who also hold Good Jobs, but there aren't many of us. I hold an interesting position in that I am supposed to work as an adviser, and my skills have to include the ability to tell someone important that they are wrong. Irrelevant of my gender or theirs. Most of the time I provide them with impartial advice, but again that requires the ability to answer questions and attacks to my work (not malicious, I expect them to doubt me if only so that they can feel more strongly about the results). I was recently at a meeting with a guy who is responsible for thousands of people who do extremely stressful jobs, and I was advising him on how he should do his job. That was quite a head-trip, but very cool in the end! It shows me that I need the confidence, as any doubt in myself would have immediately shown up when he questioned my work. Thankfully I have worked hard to make sure that I deserve the confidence

Boy, that is for sure!

Jen M.

(07-09-2010 02:21 PM)NKBurlington Wrote: [ -> ]Ugh. Sounds like it's getting worse and worse for you there.

The only thing worse than not having a job, is having one you hate. Even then, it's a stretch though. Sometimes no job at all is better than a toxic environment day after day after day.

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Yes! I was going to say something similar. Thank you, Eslbee.

I have not had to deal with this at work. I tend to be rather cold, most of the time. Cordial, but cold. I just don't leave myself open to being treated like that. It's hard to explain.

Jen M.

(07-12-2010 02:05 PM)eslbee Wrote: [ -> ]It's MY world. Because I say so. Giving up makes it stay the same. I don't want that for future generations. I'd cut my tongue out before I ever said that, especially in front of a younger woman. We all need to demand our rights, respect and recognition, or this WILL just go on and on.

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I don't know. I guess I'm kind of weird, but when I'm treated like this, my reaction is usually just to laugh and stop paying attention to the person. Really. How asinine can someone be?

Jen M.

(07-13-2010 02:16 PM)Jo Wrote: [ -> ]Just learned today about "mansplaining" aka man explaining things. It's kind of funny:

a blog entry:
http://echidneofthesnakes.blogspot.com/2...3064383031

a news article:
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/13/...p-solnit13