(05-23-2010 05:00 PM)Truckerswife Wrote: [ -> ]This show better end that that makes fans happy
Oh yea to all who have DVR's JIMMY KIMMEL late night has guest stars from The Cast Of Lost on his show tonight. And they said they would show alternate endings to Lost? Hmmm Did they have so many ideas in how to end it they did not know which to choose?
GRRRR I hope they chose a good one is all I have to say, lol.
I'm going into this just hoping for a satisfying ending. I know they aren't going to wrap everything up in a nice little package and I'm sure that there will be things I wish they had included. There's no way the writers could come up with a way to end things that will make all the fans happy, but I've read a few interviews from the creators of the show and they said they don't really care if the fans like the ending or not. They said that they've made a show (and a finale) that they are satisfied with and proud of. To tell you the truth, that's good enough for me. It's been a good run, and they're ending it on their own terms, so I'll go along for whatever ride they've created for us.
Vanessa
OK - I'm not too sure how I feel about the ending.
How come Walt and Michael didn't make it into the finale? And what about Eko? When / how did Penny die?
I have more questions but I'll have to leave it at that for now. I want to hear what you all think.
SPOILER ALERT:
Didn't the producers say years ago that no, they are not dead or they were not going to take that route? I'm actually quite disappointed in the ending. Six years of my life on a great show with a ho-hum ending - or dare I say, a terrible ending.
FAIL - IMO
POSSIBLE SPOILERS:
Initial reaction for me was that I liked the ending. I think what you're referring to NKB is the producers saying that the island wasn't some kind of pergatory and that they weren't dead the whole time. I gathered from what Christian said at the end that everyone in the church died at different times, but after their death came back to that place (the church) that they somehow shared. Even if they lived to an old age (as I presume Penny did, and Claire and many of the rest of them), they came back to the age they were on the island. I know it doesn't sound like it makes sense when I'm trying to type it out, but then again, trying to explain this show is pretty much impossible.
As for characters like Eko, Walt, Michael, etc. not being there, I think that may have just been a matter of the actors not wanting to do it. Also, time could have been a factor since the finale was already so long that they didn't have time to do all of the stories they would have liked. Hard to say.
I'm going to have to watch it again for sure, but honestly, I felt pretty ok with the ending.
Vanessa
I guess I just don't get it. If they all died, what was the point of the island? Hell, what was the point of the entire show?
What happened to Miles and Lipitus - the pilot (SP?)?
ETA: Why did Michael not make it into the finale, but he's on Jimmy Kimmel?
(05-24-2010 01:27 AM)vanessa915 Wrote: [ -> ]POSSIBLE SPOILERS:
Initial reaction for me was that I liked the ending. I think what you're referring to NKB is the producers saying that the island wasn't some kind of pergatory and that they weren't dead the whole time. I gathered from what Christian said at the end that everyone in the church died at different times, but after their death came back to that place (the church) that they somehow shared. Even if they lived to an old age (as I presume Penny did, and Claire and many of the rest of them), they came back to the age they were on the island. I know it doesn't sound like it makes sense when I'm trying to type it out, but then again, trying to explain this show is pretty much impossible.
As for characters like Eko, Walt, Michael, etc. not being there, I think that may have just been a matter of the actors not wanting to do it. Also, time could have been a factor since the finale was already so long that they didn't have time to do all of the stories they would have liked. Hard to say.
I'm going to have to watch it again for sure, but honestly, I felt pretty ok with the ending.
Vanessa
Vanessa, your impression is exactly the same as mine. Christian said they all died at different times, and everything that happened on the island really happened, and that they made this place so they could meet up again before they let go. It makes perfect sense, except that it makes it look like Jack was the last to die. Perhaps he was just the last to realize he died, he was the last to let go.
I seem to remember the actor who played Mr Eko did not leave the show on good terms, I'm sure not having him and the other actors there at the church had more to do with actor/budget/schedule/personality issues, regular show-biz stuff.
I thought the ending was beautiful. I don't care that every single question wasn't answered to it fullest explanation, and I don't care that every single little thread wasn't tied up neatly in a bow. I don't need all that if the story and characters are good and this was good--at least it was to me. Not everyone can be pleased with every story ending, people are too different.
ETA: Remember Ben telling Hugo he was a great #1, and Hugo said Ben was a great #2? That tells me they lived out the rest of their lives on the island, doing things differently than Jacob did. Now that the smoke monster was gone, they probably did really great things instead of just constantly guarding the light against evil.
And when Desmond remembers his previous life and sets out to wake everyone else up, like running over Locke to try to get him to "let go," tells me they all died at different times and just weren't ready to let go of life. I can imagine the possibility of people not wanting to let go of life so after death they just sort of create a world kind of similar to their own to wander around in, until something reminds them. In this case, they reminded each other. The more I think about it, the more I love it. The island was real, Christian said so, it was definitely not purgatory.
ETA again: And when Vincent lay down next to Jack when Jack was dying I thought I was going to friggin choke on my tears. A loyal dog will get me every damned time.
Thank you Anastasia! I'm so glad I'm not alone! After I watched the finale, I checked my Facebook and a couple of other social networking things I'm on, and NO ONE had anything good to say about the finale. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I just felt really lonely in my enjoyment of the finale since everyone else seemed to hate it so much. Was it confusing? Sure. I mean, what about that whole series *wasn't* confusing? But the ending still left me with a sense of satisfaction nonetheless.
Vanessa
I'm not at all surprised that there are questions left unanswered - it is Lost after all.
I just thought the ending was a cop out - too easy. after such a great groundbreaking, suspenseful show, you'd think they'd come up with something more original.
When everyone started to find each other and remember what happened on the island, I thought that it was a love story. I thought it was just about love, loss and redemption. I suppose if you look at the big picture that's what it was about.
I did hear and understand what Christian said - everything that happened, happened and not everyone died at the same time. Christian said that some people died before Jack and some after. If any of the people at the church died after Jack - presumably Hurley and Ben - then why did everyone meet up at the same time and why was everyone waiting for Jack? Was he the last one to "let go"?
Why was Penny there? She wasn't on the island. I suppose we have to assume that she died sometime and met up with Desmond in heaven.
Realistically, Walt could not have been there. He's too old now - not a kid anymore. That's the problem with casting children - they grow up too quickly. LOL.
And yeah, when you read the Facebook feed, not too many people were impressed with the ending at all.
And yes, you're right about Eko and everyone else who wasn't in the finale. Not everyone could have been in it. It just would have been nice.
I just feel empty and cheated - yes, cheated. I feel they cheated us out of a really fantastic ending.
OK - I'm going to make a couple of assumptions:
Kate really is innocent because she ended up in heaven. Michael, not so innocent because he killed Libby and Anna Lucia.
Is anyone a tad disappointed they brought religion and heaven / hell into the finale?
I LOVED the finale, but I can understand why some people would hate it.
Anastasia, I agree with everything you wrote. Throughout the show, Jack had huge issues with faith and believing. I think it was normal that he was the last one to accept that he was dead.
And the dog lying next to him as he died. I cried my eyes out.
I loved that Hugo became the new Jacob, and I love how things turned out in the end for Ben. He finally got from Hugo what he has always wanted from Jacob. And now, he gets to hang out with Alex for a while.
I've never been a fan of Jack/Kate, but I have to admit that I liked that they end up together at last.
Loved every minute.
This is what CFRB's John Moore posted on his FB page:
"okay. I get the ending of Lost. Just not the five years in between."
EXACTLY!!
(05-24-2010 11:16 AM)Litchie Wrote: [ -> ]I loved that Hugo became the new Jacob, and I love how things turned out in the end for Ben. He finally got from Hugo what he has always wanted from Jacob. And now, he gets to hang out with Alex for a while.
Yes, I thought that was lovely, Ben is totally my boyfriend so I'm glad he wasn't just written off. I also gathered that he wanted to go hang out with Alex and Rousseau for a bit, and help them remember when they're all ready to move on.
It makes me wish I could know about the adventures he and Hugo had on the island together over the years!
(05-24-2010 09:28 AM)NKBurlington Wrote: [ -> ]Is anyone a tad disappointed they brought religion and heaven / hell into the finale?
As much as I hate religion, I wasn't disappointed. I don't feel it really was all that religious. The coffin was in a room filled with all kinds of knick knacks from different religions, so at least it wasn't a xtian only thing. And there was no sermon or mention of god, they were in a church, but I felt it was only a meeting place. Christian Shephard walks into the light, there was no mention of heaven or hell, just moving on or not moving on, like Michael, who can't move on, and really is in some kind of purgatory on the island. I don't feel personally that moving on to the "light" that is usually mentioned in near-death experiences has anything to do with religion. It's just one of those unexplained death theories that we guess about.
Like any kind of story or book or piece of music or painting that people create, it either speaks to you or it doesn't. This ending really spoke to me and I loved it. I can't stop thinking about it.
(05-24-2010 01:47 PM)anastasia Wrote: [ -> ]It makes me wish I could know about the adventures he and Hugo had on the island together over the years!
(05-24-2010 01:47 PM)anastasia Wrote: [ -> ]This ending really spoke to me and I loved it. I can't stop thinking about it.
I think the same thing. It was an awesome ending.
My biggest problem with the series is that the whole couple seasons dealing with the "others" was pretty much pointless. It had nothing to do with anything other than the writers were making stuff up as they went along before they figured out they needed to have an ending.
It's been a couple of days now and I think I've come to terms with how it ended. It really was the only way they could have ended it.
If what Christian said was true that everything that happened, happened, then I guess I'm OK with that. They saved the island and with that, probably the entire world.
Obviously Hurley and Ben lived much longer than Jack but if that's the case, whey were they all meeting up at the same time? If everyone died at different times, how is it possible they met up at the same time? They were all waiting for Jack to accept and move on? Was the flash sideways just a way for their souls and their acceptance to catch up with each other?
I started putting it together when Locke said to Jack, "You don't have a son Jack". Then I said, OK, here we go - they are dead.
Thanks for posting that. Good read indeed.
(05-25-2010 10:24 AM)NKBurlington Wrote: [ -> ]Obviously Hurley and Ben lived much longer than Jack but if that's the case, whey were they all meeting up at the same time? If everyone died at different times, how is it possible they met up at the same time?
Christian told Jack there was no "time" there, so there's no before Jack and after Jack...it's all the same thing.