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I have to vent about two women I know from doing dog agility. The first woman, F, is going through a terrible time with her 19-year-old son. Apparently, this summer he's gotten himself on crystal meth, blowing off college, and, in my opinion, just having a having a hard time being an adult. OK. I was that kind of kid. Although I didn't do meth, I certainly wasn't going to do anything the "right and socially acceptable" way. F is a nice lady, very nice, but she lets her family walk all over her. In the past she has cancelled on agility trials because her husband HAS to deal with their boat that weekend or leave early from practice because she HAS to pick up her son (like her husband cannot be bothered). Just the other day we were having a doggie play date at someone's house and she got ALL flushed and upset with herself b/c she forgot to call her son for a planned wake-up call at 10:15 am. She's always saying that her family comes first. This weekend she signed up for an agility trial. She actually made it and stayed all day, except at the end she got a phone call that something was going on and she had to get home right away. The entire day she seemed preoccupied and upset at something. She even said a couple of times that people without kids just don't understand how it is...

What the fuck, it seems to me that by putting her family first all the time that she doesn't get to do anything she wants to do. She is religious and goes to bible study class. This is why I don't like the bible, because it encourages women to stop living and only focus on catering to other people who they certainly care for and love, but there should be a limit. Why do women like this put themselves so far down the totem pole?

Ok so there is that vent.

There is a second woman from my agility, M, who is a nice and doesn't have kid problems. Her daughter is 19 and going to college and being a great kid. The problem is that M insists on doing dog agility with a little itty bitty 3 lb Chihuahua. We practice at night and often late, to 10 pm. Her dog is always acting like she doesn't want to be there and I always thought it was because it was late at night. But this weekend the dog was behaving the same way and worse. Little Stellla, potato dog, actually threw up. I figured it was from being nervous all day. Stella was shaking all over and whining when she was in her pen. M "wasn't sure what it was"!! And then it was all about the dog getting sick. I was so irritated at the end of the day thinking about how she carried on about how her little dog just didn't do the runs. I wished she would face reality and say her dog definitely does not want to do agility and stop doing agility. She is wasting everyone's time at practice and I got so tired of listening to her carry on all day about how Stella just wasn't up to it on that run.

Oh, and the worst part is that I was talking to another woman, E, who is really good at agility and has a great dog, about going to an out of town trial about four hours away. She said she would like to go and M was standing right there and so we (I am guilty too) both included her in the question of whether she was going to Las Cruces or not. She said she would like to go with the two of us. (YUCK) Now I am sorry about saying anything at all because we talked about all three of us sharing a room. It is bad enough taking a chance with E and a motel room, but throw potato dog in there too and I know I will not get good sleep which is extremely important when doing dog agility trials that start at 7 am.

I just don't understand how M would even think about going to Las Cruces for a dog show when her little dog was obviously hating agility that very day. I thought she would say no. I am crossing my fingers she doesn't go.

I got tired of listening to all the chit chatty talk. I was so glad when DH showed up; it made M sit away from us. Within an hour, I told him how much I appreciated his quiet demeanor. He was reading a book. I didn't realize how much on edge I was until he showed up. I felt myself really calming down when I wasn't sitting next to people on a constant "on."

End of all venting.
Comment on vent #1 with "F."

Yeah, she totally seems like she is really putting herself out there and not allowing herself to live her own life. I can not fathom having to deal with a meth addicted child or family member. I understand it must be hard, but it does seem like she isn't really doing anything about it. She's just giving in to it and letting her crappy situation drag her down with it.

Quoting Opilies: "What the fuck, it seems to me that by putting her family first all the time that she doesn't get to do anything she wants to do. She is religious and goes to bible study class. This is why I don't like the bible, because it encourages women to stop living and only focus on catering to other people who they certainly care for and love, but there should be a limit. Why do women like this put themselves so far down the totem pole?" End Quote.

I am a spiritual person. I believe in God and all that good stuff. I won't turn this into a religious discussion. But a different perspective on your comment about the bible encouraging women to be subservient-- the bible, to me, is not the "word of God." It should not be read and then followed to the letter. What you CAN do with it is, take from the bible, the teachings that you believe will help you in your own life, if you choose to turn to the bible at all.

I think people who take a single passage (or even EVERY passage) in the bible and then consider it to be the LAW OF LIFE, are, frankly, stupid. The bible was meant to be left open for discussion, despite it's writers trying to twist its meaning to strike fear into people. So, it sounds like "F" may be that type of person...

Comment on vent #2 with "M" and "E."

I also have a three pound Chihuahua named Stella. She is very active and I have often thought about getting her into agility. But if MY Stella was clearly acting disinterested in agility, I wouldn't force her to do it. Sounds to me like "M" is not being very accommodating to her Chi. Perhaps she thinks that her Chi is "just a dog." **cough**bullshit**cough**

I might suggest that if she does end up going, and you have the financial means, consider a separate motel room.... or a separate motel. Big Grin
Ugh, Opilies. I can see why you struggle to stay close to these women. I wonder if the whole thing with "F" is the way our culture is now. I work with three women with adult children and the extent to which they cater to their kids is mindboggling. They do EVERYTHING for these kids - I hear them on the phone making doctor appointments for 30 year olds. They give their kids their cars, throw birthday parties for them, etc. For supposed grown-ups.

"M" is troubling. Why would you want your pet to participate in an activity that makes it upset and nervous!? I would never do that to my cats. Sounds to me like she just wants the attention but doesn't care that her dog doesn't like agility. That's upsetting and sad.

Your DH sounds terrific. I'm glad you have each other!
Ya, F totally caters to her sons and will frequently say, "family first." My mom was a religious person who felt a woman's place is slightly under her husbands. I get the feeling F thinks the same thing. F is like this with her mother too.

Little Stella...poor thing. I sometimes think that M simply likes working with dogs that are not the usual one would see in an agility ring or obedience ring. She also has two Basenjis that she tried to doing agility with and it just didn't work out. She competed in AKC obedience with one of her Basenjis and didn't get very far. It is like she picks the breeds that are not going to be successful just so she doesn't have to really compete.

I am realizing that these women are just not the kind of women I can hang around with all day anywhere. They come from a whole different mind set. Dee our trainer is always encouraging us to come together and share our stuff like shade structures, ex pens, and rides. I feel like a real anal retentive person criticizing them the way I do. But I see lots of other women who are not like these two. They are totally into agility, sit by themselves with just their dogs, and are really nice when we pass by each other walking to and from the ring. I don't know why fate has put me with those two old bitties. I am sure there is something for me to learn out of this, I just not sure what it is yet.
"F" sounds like she is codependent. I'm guessing she uses "putting everyone else first" to get attention and to control things around her. (I am one myself and am in recovery.)

"M" sounds like she is in denial. It sounds like her dog can't physically handle the trials, so she should either pull her dog or try and find agility trials for smaller dogs. Poor "potato dog!" Sad

Jen M.
There is nothing wrong with distancing yourself from people who are not healthy. These two women clearly are not healthy.

Whatever you decide, I wish you luck with your agility activities. What kind of dog do you have again?

Jen
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