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It's about TIME "they" admitted this, but my comment to the article was that ALL countries could probably stand to "slow things down." (I'm The Lioness there.)

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I've noticed that articles like this always say that it's the others (aka, non-whites) who should stop breeding. Interesting considering that as an American I probably use more resources than a hundred Bangladeshis.

Yeah. That is not lost on me, which is why I responded the way I did: That ALL nations/peoples could stand to slow down.

Jen

I am studying Conservation, and my current lesson is "The Human Population PROBLEM", not "Human Population"... PROBLEM! I am learning a lot. I care for the Earth, and honestly my main reason for not having children... is Earth! My course also talked about "Technological Overpopulation" in developed nations, and that it is as serious as overpopulation in poorer countries... about our dependence on technology such as automobiles, and their role on the environment.

I love how people always say that there's no population problem in the USA. Right - tell me that on a Friday afternoon when I'm trying to get up to the lake and there's stop and go traffic! Or, like Eddy points out - the amount of resources we use as Americans is so many times what people in other countries use. Our trash alone can bury the world to say nothing of our carbon emissions.

I think food scarcity is one of the biggest signs that the planet is overpopulated. Sure, actually getting the food where its needed is a problem, but the decrease of ariable land in Africa, dried out aquaifers (sp?) out West, the overfished oceans, and rainforests being cut down for farmland show that the planet just isn't made to support so many.

I am not going to make a stereotype, I'm a Christian and use a lot of Christian websites. I am finding other Christians who are child-free, they used to hide but they're slowly coming out of the woodwork. But most are still quite ignorant, and rude to anyone child-free.

(11-08-2009 03:36 PM)Koi Wrote: [ -> ]I think food scarcity is one of the biggest signs that the planet is overpopulated. Sure, actually getting the food where its needed is a problem, but the decrease of ariable land in Africa, dried out aquaifers (sp?) out West, the overfished oceans, and rainforests being cut down for farmland show that the planet just isn't made to support so many.

This is a problem among many others that nobody wishes to address. One problem that is being ignored is water. People talk about peak oil but nobody is addressing peak water. In the US we have the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogallala_Aquifer which is being depleted more and more rapidly and yet nobody wants to talk about it.

A really disturbing thing is the Colorado River that eventually drains into the Rio Grande. A large chunk of that river is diverted for agriculture in the US which isn't sustainable. Oranges were never meant to grow in semi-arid regions like the Grand Valley of California but thanks to irrigation we can do it. Nobody seems to say, wait a minute, this was a region with cactus and sagebrush and not oranges. Maybe nature knows more than us. The really sad thing is that the Rio Grande doesn't even flow anymore because the US has taken all the water.

Quote:This is a problem among many others that nobody wishes to address. One problem that is being ignored is water. People talk about peak oil but nobody is addressing peak water. In the US we have the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogallala_Aquifer which is being depleted more and more rapidly and yet nobody wants to talk about it.

A really disturbing thing is the Colorado River that eventually drains into the Rio Grande. A large chunk of that river is diverted for agriculture in the US which isn't sustainable. Oranges were never meant to grow in semi-arid regions like the Grand Valley of California but thanks to irrigation we can do it. Nobody seems to say, wait a minute, this was a region with cactus and sagebrush and not oranges. Maybe nature knows more than us. The really sad thing is that the Rio Grande doesn't even flow anymore because the US has taken all the water.

I didn't even mention that there was the legal battle over water from the Great Lakes-they wanted to somehow ship it to the American Southwest to deal with the droughts there. Having to transport water across the continent might indicate, you know, like a problem? But that's too logical for most, I suppose.

Jeebus! Are you serious, Koi?

Good grief. "Idiocracy" is upon us, for sure!

Jen M.

(11-09-2009 10:41 PM)Bittercat Wrote: [ -> ]Jeebus! Are you serious, Koi?

Good grief. "Idiocracy" is upon us, for sure!

Jen M.

Unfortunately, she is. Water rights have been a big issue in the past fifty years as places like Los Angeles and Las Vegas are consuming a huge amount of water to sustain their population where people have lush green yards in a place where it's a desert. You have farms raising non-native crops like oranges in a place where they were never meant to grow and nobody seems to understand why this is a bad thing. The worst thing though of course is how people say they can have children and it won't affect anything.

I'm very serious. As Eddy said, the desert places aren't meant to sustain huge populations, at least not in the way we live. Desert dwelling tribes can do it, but that's far cry from the way the Joneses live.

Yup. The Joneses could learn a lot from the desert tribes.

I knew about all of the things Eddy pointed out. I just did not realize we'd gotten so dumb as a nation that, rather than stop bad behaviors, we're robbing Peter to pay Paul. Ridiculous.

Jen